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Czas nie istnieje, istnieje tylko w wyobrażni.
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LeoTar
2016-05-13 19:30:46 UTC
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Ulrich de Balbian, Scientific writer and philosopher

TIME does not exist - it is in the imagination

TIME does not exist

Human beings exist and are conscious only in the present (moment). They
do not exist, cannot perceive (feel, imagine, hear, see, view, touch,
etc) and cannot be conscious in the past or the future.
Time and the imagining of time passing is a human fabrication and
projection. Neither the past nor the future exist except in the
imagination of human beings. Humans mistake devices, inventions and ways
of and for measuring and counting longer or shorter periods of time for
example in seconds, minutes, hours, years, decades, centuries, etc for
time itself. They also imagine that the past exists because of thoughts,
images, feelings, etc they have in the present - the only moment when
any of these occur, can occur and is possible. They do similar things,
for example by planning, having hopes, motives, intentions, wishes, etc
that what is not yet, that what does not yet exist and have not yet been
realized or occurred. On the basis of these things they imagine and even
believe that there exist or is something such as ‘the future’. [...]

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LeoTar
2016-05-13 19:49:14 UTC
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Ulrich de Balbian, Scientific writer and philosopher
TIME does not exist - it is in the imagination
https://www.linkedin.com/groups/4752691/4752691-6134259672296751108
TIME does not exist

Human beings exist and are conscious only in the present (moment). They
do not exist, cannot perceive (feel, imagine, hear, see, view, touch,
etc) and cannot be conscious in the past or the future.
Time and the imagining of time passing is a human fabrication and
projection. Neither the past nor the future exist except in the
imagination of human beings. Humans mistake devices, inventions and ways
of and for measuring and counting longer or shorter periods of time for
example in seconds, minutes, hours, years, decades, centuries, etc for
time itself. They also imagine that the past exists because of thoughts,
images, feelings, etc they have in the present - the only moment when
any of these occur, can occur and is possible. They do similar things,
for example by planning, having hopes, motives, intentions, wishes, etc
that what is not yet, that what does not yet exist and have not yet been
realized or occurred. On the basis of these things they imagine and even
believe that there exist or is something such as ‘the future’.
The past and the past for you or for me are mere imagination and
projections. The same goes for the future - we constitute, fabricate and
imagine it to exist here and now in the present moment.
It is on the basis of these propositions that I state that time does not
exist, that there is no past or future that exist for or in human
perception and consciousness. All or anything that is or exist for human
beings, for and in human perception and consciousness exist only in the
present moment - human perception, thinking, feelings, imagining and
consciousness can and do only function or operate in this present
moment. Human perception, thinking, imagining and consciousness cannot
operate in the past or in the future. To imagine otherwise is mere
illusion and self-deception. To imagine that anything in the future
exists or is real is an illusion, self-deception and a play with one’s
imagination.
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LeoTar

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Odważ się wiedzieć - Zygmunt Freud
Anarchia matką ładu - Piotr Kropotkin
Ghost
2016-05-13 19:59:35 UTC
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Post by LeoTar
Ulrich de Balbian, Scientific writer and philosopher
Post by LeoTar
TIME does not exist - it is in the imagination
https://www.linkedin.com/groups/4752691/4752691-6134259672296751108
TIME does not exist
Human beings exist and are conscious only in the present (moment). They do
not exist, cannot perceive (feel, imagine, hear, see, view, touch, etc) and
cannot be conscious in the past or the future.
Time and the imagining of time passing is a human fabrication and
projection. Neither the past nor the future exist except in the imagination
of human beings. Humans mistake devices, inventions and ways of and for
measuring and counting longer or shorter periods of time for example in
seconds, minutes, hours, years, decades, centuries, etc for time itself.
They also imagine that the past exists because of thoughts, images,
feelings, etc they have in the present - the only moment when any of these
occur, can occur and is possible. They do similar things, for example by
planning, having hopes, motives, intentions, wishes, etc that what is not
yet, that what does not yet exist and have not yet been realized or
occurred. On the basis of these things they imagine and even believe that
there exist or is something such as ‘the future’.
The past and the past for you or for me are mere imagination and
projections. The same goes for the future - we constitute, fabricate and
imagine it to exist here and now in the present moment.
It is on the basis of these propositions that I state that time does not
exist, that there is no past or future that exist for or in human
perception and consciousness. All or anything that is or exist for human
beings, for and in human perception and consciousness exist only in the
present moment - human perception, thinking, feelings, imagining and
consciousness can and do only function or operate in this present moment.
Human perception, thinking, imagining and consciousness cannot operate in
the past or in the future. To imagine otherwise is mere illusion and
self-deception. To imagine that anything in the future exists or is real is
an illusion, self-deception and a play with one’s imagination.
TIMEは存在しません。

人間が存在し、のみ存在(瞬間)に意識しています。彼ら
(知覚感じ、想像し、聞く、見ることができない、存在し​​ない、ビュー、タッチ、
など)と過去や未来に意識することはできません。
時間と時間通過の想像は、人間の製作で、
投影。過去も未来もないが以外に存在します
人間の想像力。人間のミスデバイス、発明や方法
のとするために長いか短い期間の時間を測定し、カウントします
秒、分、時間、年、何十年、何世紀にもわたっ、などのための例
時間そのもの。彼らはまた、過去のが原因思考の存在していることを想像します
イメージ、感情、など彼らは現在に持っている - ほんの一瞬
これらのいずれかが発生し、発生して可能であることができます。彼らは同じようなことを行います、
企画有する期待、動機、意図、希望、などによって例えば
その何がまだ存在していない、まだされていないことを、まだものではありません
実現または発生しました。これらの事に基づいて、彼らは想像さえ
そこに存在するか、「将来」のようなものであると信じています。
過去と過去のあなたのためか、私のための単なる想像力であり、
凸。同じことが、将来のために行く - 私たちは、製造、構成しており、
現時点では、今ここに存在することを想像してみてください。
それは私がその時がいない状態、これらの提案に基づいています
以下のためまたはヒトには存在しない過去や未来がないこと、存在します
知覚と意識。であるか、人間のために存在するすべてまたは何も
および人間の知覚や意識の存在が、中にのみ存在します
現時点 - 人間の知覚、思考、感情、想像と
意識は機能のみを行うか、この本で動作することができ、
瞬間。人間の知覚、思考、想像と意識はできません
過去または将来的に動作します。そうでない場合を想像することは単なるです
幻想と自己欺瞞。将来的にはその何かを想像するには
存在するかで本当のは錯覚、自己欺瞞と1の状態で場あり
想像力。
m***@gmail.com
2016-05-20 12:42:58 UTC
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Użytkownik "LeoTar" napisał w wiadomości grup
Post by LeoTar
Ulrich de Balbian, Scientific writer and philosopher
Post by LeoTar
TIME does not exist - it is in the imagination
https://www.linkedin.com/groups/4752691/4752691-6134259672296751108
TIME does not exist
Human beings exist and are conscious only in the present (moment). They do
not exist, cannot perceive (feel, imagine, hear, see, view, touch, etc) and
cannot be conscious in the past or the future.
Time and the imagining of time passing is a human fabrication and
projection. Neither the past nor the future exist except in the imagination
of human beings. Humans mistake devices, inventions and ways of and for
measuring and counting longer or shorter periods of time for example in
seconds, minutes, hours, years, decades, centuries, etc for time itself.
They also imagine that the past exists because of thoughts, images,
feelings, etc they have in the present - the only moment when any of these
occur, can occur and is possible. They do similar things, for example by
planning, having hopes, motives, intentions, wishes, etc that what is not
yet, that what does not yet exist and have not yet been realized or
occurred. On the basis of these things they imagine and even believe that
there exist or is something such as ‘the future’.
The past and the past for you or for me are mere imagination and
projections. The same goes for the future - we constitute, fabricate and
imagine it to exist here and now in the present moment.
It is on the basis of these propositions that I state that time does not
exist, that there is no past or future that exist for or in human
perception and consciousness. All or anything that is or exist for human
beings, for and in human perception and consciousness exist only in the
present moment - human perception, thinking, feelings, imagining and
consciousness can and do only function or operate in this present moment.
Human perception, thinking, imagining and consciousness cannot operate in
the past or in the future. To imagine otherwise is mere illusion and
self-deception. To imagine that anything in the future exists or is real is
an illusion, self-deception and a play with one’s imagination.
TIMEは存在しません。
人間が存在し、のみ存在(瞬間)に意識しています。彼ら
(知覚感じ、想像し、聞く、見ることができない、存在し​​ない、ビュー、タッチ、
など)と過去や未来に意識することはできません。
時間と時間通過の想像は、人間の製作で、
投影。過去も未来もないが以外に存在します
人間の想像力。人間のミスデバイス、発明や方法
のとするために長いか短い期間の時間を測定し、カウントします
秒、分、時間、年、何十年、何世紀にもわたっ、などのための例
時間そのもの。彼らはまた、過去のが原因思考の存在していることを想像します
イメージ、感情、など彼らは現在に持っている - ほんの一瞬
これらのいずれかが発生し、発生して可能であることができます。彼らは同じようなことを行います、
企画有する期待、動機、意図、希望、などによって例えば
その何がまだ存在していない、まだされていないことを、まだものではありません
実現または発生しました。これらの事に基づいて、彼らは想像さえ
そこに存在するか、「将来」のようなものであると信じています。
過去と過去のあなたのためか、私のための単なる想像力であり、
凸。同じことが、将来のために行く - 私たちは、製造、構成しており、
現時点では、今ここに存在することを想像してみてください。
それは私がその時がいない状態、これらの提案に基づいています
以下のためまたはヒトには存在しない過去や未来がないこと、存在します
知覚と意識。であるか、人間のために存在するすべてまたは何も
および人間の知覚や意識の存在が、中にのみ存在します
現時点 - 人間の知覚、思考、感情、想像と
意識は機能のみを行うか、この本で動作することができ、
瞬間。人間の知覚、思考、想像と意識はできません
過去または将来的に動作します。そうでない場合を想像することは単なるです
幻想と自己欺瞞。将来的にはその何かを想像するには
存在するかで本当のは錯覚、自己欺瞞と1の状態で場あり
想像力。
هناك أشخاص وندرك فقط في الحاضر (وقت). لم تكن موجودة، لا يمكن أن ينظر إليه (أشعر، تخيل، يسمع ويرى، البصر، اللمس، الخ) وقد لا تكون على علم في الماضي أو المستقبل. الوقت وتخيل مرور الوقت هو رجل من التنفيذ والأداء. لا في الماضي ولا في المستقبل موجودا، باستثناء مخيلة الرجل. البشر الأجهزة خطأ والاختراعات والطرق ولقياس وحساب فترات أطول أو أقصر من سبيل المثال الوقت بالثواني والدقائق والساعات والسنوات والعقود، قرون، الخ نفس الوقت. فهم يتصورون أن الماضي لا وجود له، لأن الأفكار، والصور، والمشاعر، وما إلى ذلك يكون في الوقت الحاضر - المرة الوحيدة عندما يتم، يمكن أن يحدث لكل واحد منهم وكان ذلك ممكنا. يفعلون أشياء مماثلة، على سبيل المثال من خلال التخطيط وأمل، دوافع ونوايا ورغبات، وما إلى ذلك ما ليس بعد، أن ما لا وجود له حتى الآن ولم تتحقق بعد أو حدث. على أساس من تلك الأشياء التي يمكنك أن تتخيل، وحتى يعتقد أن لا وجود لها أو شيء من هذا القبيل & # 034؛ المستقبل & # 0
a***@hotmail.co.uk
2019-08-08 15:01:01 UTC
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Post by LeoTar
Ulrich de Balbian, Scientific writer and philosopher
TIME does not exist - it is in the imagination
TIME does not exist
Human beings exist and are conscious only in the present (moment). They
do not exist, cannot perceive (feel, imagine, hear, see, view, touch,
etc) and cannot be conscious in the past or the future.
Time and the imagining of time passing is a human fabrication and
projection. Neither the past nor the future exist except in the
imagination of human beings. Humans mistake devices, inventions and ways
of and for measuring and counting longer or shorter periods of time for
example in seconds, minutes, hours, years, decades, centuries, etc for
time itself. They also imagine that the past exists because of thoughts,
images, feelings, etc they have in the present - the only moment when
any of these occur, can occur and is possible. They do similar things,
for example by planning, having hopes, motives, intentions, wishes, etc
that what is not yet, that what does not yet exist and have not yet been
realized or occurred. On the basis of these things they imagine and even
believe that there exist or is something such as ‘the future’. [...]
https://www.linkedin.com/groups/4752691/4752691-6134259672296751108
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LeoTar
Temat stary, ale uderzyl po oczach. Czas jest pojeciem z rodziny: ruch, zmiana, taniec, plywanie i tysiace podobnych. Zadne z tych pojec samoistnie nie wystepuje. Dopiero gdy sparzone z obiektem istnieje razem z nim. Tak wiec czas istnieje razem z materia, bo jest ona w ciaglym ruchu, a "czas to ruch czegokolwiek wzgledem czegokolwiek". Nie jest to rzecz jasna definicja, ale mój tautologiczny jego opis, bo czasu nie da sie zdefiniowac bez uciekania sie do jego synonimów. Taniec istnieje wraz z tancerzem, itd.

A teraz co to znaczy "istnieje". Przykladowo: bóg, czas, zmiana, milosc, nienawisc, to pojecia, bo w odróznieniu od obiektów, które istnieja bo maja ksztalt i swoje miejsce, pojecia nie maja ani ksztaltu, ani swojego miejsca, wiec fizycznie nie istnieja.

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Czas nie pyta, nie staje, a miesiaczki leca

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